| The F-22 Fighter Plane (Which started
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| | Being on the cutting edge of military
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| life as the Advanced Tactical Fighter
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| | advancement doesn't come cheap or easy.
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| {ATF} and later became the Air Dominance
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| | But the most powerful country in the
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| Fighter {ADF}) and the Typhoon were
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| | world is ALWAYS the country with the most
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| programs started in the early 80's. The
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| | powerful military. You can't very well
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| F-22 is intended to replace the F-15C/D
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| | impose your will if you... can't impose
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| While the Euro fighter plane is intended
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| | your will.
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| to replace a whole plethora of aircraft.
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| | Our military isn't just judged based upon
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| The JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) is a
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| | its ability to fight those we will likely
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| replacement for aircraft types such as
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| | have to in the near future. But,
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| the Harrier (VSTOL variant slated for the
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| | everything out there. including our own
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| USMC; Britain), the F-16 (CTOL Variant
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| | weapons.
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| for the USAF) and the F/A-18C/D (Naval
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| | A lot of Russian/European Fighter planes
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| Variant for the USN).
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| | are at par or has exceeded the F-15E's
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| While the Jury is still out on the JSF
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| | capability. This puts the US at a
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| (As far as I am concerned) I think the
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| | disadvantage. Besides, F-15 will be at
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| F-22 has turned into one of those
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| | least 25+ years old. For a military
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| "Projects that won't die" like the M2/M3
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| | that's taking the fight into the OPFOR's
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| Bradley. The US Government has spent so
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| | own backyard, the US has to dominate its
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| much money on it that they can't afford
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| | battle space. And that means having an
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| to buy it.
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| | Air Superiority to operate with impunity.
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| Do we need it? That question is already
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| | Sure, it's expensive. But whoever said
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| moot. We are getting it whether we "need"
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| | that Air Superiority was cheap? If you
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| it or not. I think, however, that the
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| | looked back into the 70s when the F-15
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| F-22 may be the last manned fighter to be
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| | was still in its R&D phases lawmakers
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| deployed. The focus will, IMHO, switch to
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| | said the same damn thing: "that plane's
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| highly capable UCAVs...
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| | too expensive!" And now, we got hundreds
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| From a military perspective, yes. What
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| | of them.
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| will stop these European countries from
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| | The F-22 may be the single biggest waste
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| selling this aircraft to any country that
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| | of money since the B-1. Large, heavy, bad
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| wants it? What will stop members of the
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| | E-M (energy-maneuverability) ratings it
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| design team from selling plans to other
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| | simple is not a good air plane. Instead
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| countries? It is possible that our
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| | of being based on the E-M theory like the
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| aircraft will infact have to fly against
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| | F-15 and 16 were it has instead reverted
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| the euro fighter.
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| | back to the bigger-higher-faster
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| Keep in mind, there was a time when Iraq
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| | doctrine. It simply puts to many gizmos
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| was our ally (of sorts). Just because
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| | into a plan that doesn't need it. The E-M
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| someone is my ally today does not mean
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| | theory proved that the lighter the plane
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| they will be tomorrow. If I'm putting you
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| | the better it will be able to maneuver,
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| in a hunk of metal that for all intents
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| | the F-22 is one of the heaviest planes
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| and purposes is one large explosive. That
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| | designed.
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| you will have to fly faster than the
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| | It also has far surpassed its budget and
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| speed of sound while being fired at....
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| | its cost per plane is simply
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| call me crazy, but I think you would like
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| | unacceptable. By the time the air force
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| to be sitting in the most technologically
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| | has enough money to replace its fleet
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| advanced thing you could get your hands
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| | with these flying boxes they will be long
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| on.
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| | obsolete.
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